Naturally aspirated monsters (Kyle and Alan)!

I was reading with subdued interest, a concern raised, allegedly, by a regular Dover competitor. His ‘beef’ surrounded Andre Anderson’s machine and its ‘too fast’ nature. Essentially, what is being suggested is that the motor and the machine are too good to be true!

Andre Anderson drove away from the CMRC Round 1 event at Dover, in May, with a major points haul, which has eased him into serious contention for the Drivers’ title for 2013. So, I am certain that if the clearly defined channels of protest are utilised, the driver and team will be more than willing to oblige the apparently disgruntled competitor.

Out of curiosity, I returned to the posted recorded times from the event and while perusing, I lost interest in my original quest. The initial issue, re-Andre’s machine, faded and became a distant memory! Why?

Andre’s best time for the race-weekend – qualifying or race – was a 1:22. 728 – done during qualifying for Thundersport 1 and Thundersport 2 (TS-1 TS-2). His time landed him at 4th on the grid, behind the heavy-hitters, Doug ‘Hollywood’ Gore – 1:17.885, David ‘King’ Summerbell – 1:18.112 (he blasted a quicker time in race trim!) and Peter ‘Zoom Zoom’ Rae – 1:21.899.

The fact that Andre’s machine is said to be 1800ccs, but motivated by ample boost and he is only 4-5 seconds away from the idolized machines of Doug and David, is remarkable in and of itself, but not entirely surprising. The gentleman (Andre Anderson) does come to the table with a certified skill-set. Ask his father, he might tell you what it costs to complete an engineering degree in Canada! Let that rest for now.

Christopher Columbus is credited with discovering the New World, an error in history which will never be rewritten, but life goes on. I will possibly be credited with no discovery, but on that same qualifying results sheet (and others), close to, next to and also ahead of some rather powerful machines, were these two names Kyle Gregg and Alan Chen. Kyle Gregg stopped the clock at 1:24.273 and Alan Chen matched Kyle’s feat with a 1:24.475. Perspective is crucial.

Kyle Gregg and Alan Chen

Kyle’s machine (Honda Civic – EG), last time I heard him speaking about it, at the drivers meeting, has a 2100 cc (his words) naturally aspirated motor. Alan, last time I checked, was rocking one of the versions of the potent Honda S200o motor. It is always Kyle’s goal to stay ahead of his arch- rival Alan and because Alan knows this, apparently he remains motivated to thwart that plan! The end result sees these 2 n/a monsters locked in a roaring VTEC battle which pushes a rather exciting envelope!

When the times both machines are ticking are viewed, your eyes should be bulging like those of a horrified child! Check this – their motors will be screaming along the start-finish straight at Dover, 7 or less seconds after Doug and David, 3 seconds after Peter Rae, 2 seconds after Andre Anderson, 1 second after Heath Causwell and rubbing fenders with Chris Campbell in his baritone BMW and ahead of a few 400-500 hp Evos!

And someone is arguing that Andre Anderson is too fast? Assuming that these times are accurate (and issues have surfaced in the past), Kyle and Alan are rocking 2 naturally aspirated monsters! Further proof that power is not the entire package at Dover!

Why are these machines so fast?

Cecil Munroe Gleaner On-Line Writer

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9 Responses to “Naturally aspirated monsters (Kyle and Alan)!”

  1. knee says:

    That’s the billion dollar question. I too have been following a discussion and was really surprised at the allegations. I am a true believer that skills and knowing your machine goes a long way. I am also thinking “sour grapes”.
    To Kyle and Alan – great competitors hope they remain this way as they grow in the sport. I am slowly becoming a devoted ——- Fan.
    Peace

  2. Mullo says:

    Dover is an autocross track with asphalt. Good brakes, very good suspension setup and torque will make any car with a strong enough driver very competitive. That is why it would be very interesting if Neil Armstrong’s FWD wide body Starlet turned up at Dover. Or say a WRC Citroen or Focus with 300WHP and 500 ft/lb of torque.

  3. cmunroe says:

    Hailings Knee! If we are talking about a similar or the same discussion, yes the allegations are surprising, but not totally unexpected. But, at the same time, I honestly do not think it is a case of sour grapes. I will explain.

    In days gone by, ‘the competitor’ tried to pave a new way forward, with a few, not-so typical machines at Dover and when it seemed as if he had victory locked and sealed, ‘politics’ dived in and changes were made, which in his view, placed him at a disadvantage relative to others.

    So, essentially, what he is doing, is being very vigilant, which he has a right to do, inorder to ensure that he, when he competes, is actually doing battle on a level playing field, with competitors who are not in breach. No sour grapes, just trying to create a smooth path to P1! But having said that, the only area where he erred would be the medium he chose to vent his concerns.

    Kyle and Alan have brought a new dimension of racing to Dover.To say they are fierce competitors is an understatement and I have heard Kyle on the topic. Their battle is hotter than a sea of lava! But to them we say thanks, the closely fought duels are a joy to watch!

  4. enquiring mind says:

    Cecil, in your writing it is important to note that Andre Anderson doesn’t even have the fastest 1800cc turbo time at Dover. Stuart Williams of Barbados is 2.156 seconds a lap faster than Andre, with a similar turbo 1800cc engine. Doug Maloney,also of Barbados and despite his advanced age, is only 0.216 of a second slower than Andre.

    Andre is literally in the middle of the group of fast turbo 1800cc cars at Dover, yet is being singled out for a public lynching, with no supporting evidence supplied by the person agitating against him. There is a clear process of protest available to all competitors at Dover, yet the accuser chose to forgo that route and instead try his case in the court of public opinion. All because he thinks Andre Anderson, one of the brightest young stars on the Jamaica driving scene, is “too fast”.

  5. cmunroe says:

    Mullo you are behaving like an informed individual!! You are ‘right on the money’ – hitting the all of the nails on the head like a prolific carpenter!

    I am going to have a look at Neil’s car – I cant recall seeing it in action. But why sir, would you want to capsize the Dover ‘big guns’ ship and introduce a WRC machine at Dover with those figures? I would not only love to see such a machine, I would trade someone’s liver or kidneys for a drive! Do you have any links to such a machine?

  6. cmunroe says:

    Enquiring mind, your words – content and tone- bear an uncanny resemblance to those I would expect from an individual I refer to as ‘the Jamaican Motorsport Encyclopaedia’. I have spent some time examining the recorded times and if they are accurate, some alarming things will hit you like a 25 lb brick! For example, some machines, that we all know have 400 plus whp, are being flogged mercilessly by other machines which have barely crossed the 200whp mark! I am fully aware that driver an ‘package’ are the responsible factors, but still. It is abundantly evident that if the required ingredients are assembled and expertly blended – think Stuart Willliams’ machine and others – a ‘fast time’ is only a lap away!

    I take your point re- Andre and I agree that given the options available to ‘the accuser’, he chose the least appropriate one. But, if I was a member of the Anderson camp or TSR, I would view his actions/comments as a compliment! The goal of any racing outfit is to win races and if there is a competitor who is complaining that my machine is “too fast”, it therefore means that I am hitting the target and getting the job done. In this case, with tornado like boost! He (the accuser) was possibly thrown into a drunken stupor by the turbulence generated by Andre’s machine when it sped by his viewing point! Having said that, I hope he learns from this and uses the clearly marked channels next time he thinks a machine is “too fast”.

    What is your view on Kyle’s machine? How the hell is he doing 1: 23s?

  7. Mullo says:

    Here is a clip for Neil Armstrong

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxavyqpGQSc

    The “competitor”, based on the input above, sounds like he/she has an axe to grind. Back in the day when there was a “show room stock” class at Dover, certain people were running uprated cams and close ratio gearboxes and dominating the class. One racer decided if you can’t beat them, then join them. He happened to beat the dominating car and of course a protest was lodged and his car was torn down and found to be “illegal”.

    I don’t know if the rules have changed but, it used to be the person making the official protest was responsible to pay for the tearing down process. People will always push the envelope and some cross the line into all out cheating.

    However, one must always call a spade a spade. Andre is a wheelman and he came from the karting ranks just like Speedy. People must realize that no matter how good a driver they think they are, there is always someone better!

    An observer was driven around Dover in Speedy’s car. Afterwards he said there is no substitute for talent and seat time and Speedy has both. His grandfather used to race at Vernam, way, way back in the day in a car painted like a black and yellow taxicab.

  8. Ians says:

    Mr. Munroe,
    Here is another clip of Neil Armstrong’s car. And as the fan said “Machine machine!!”

    http://youtu.be/nr1myQqgExc

  9. cmunroe says:

    Mullo and Ians I have watched a few of the videos of the machine in action. This machine depicts a Toyota Starlet on steroids! What is it with the Bajans? Dem no drive nutten normal? Di machine crazy – sick – ! And the driver – head no good!

    Mullo, with Mark Maloney’s RX3 now a shadow of its former 20B wailing-self, I would appreciate seeing this worthy machine ripping its sequential melodies along Dover’s start-finish straight! Can you make it happen?

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